Awakening Beyond The Mind With Alina Panteleev

What if awakening isn’t about understanding concepts, but directly recognising presence through lived experience?

In this episode of Awakening Now, I sat down with Alina Panteleev, a Non-Dual Teacher and Certified Somatic Repression Coach.

Alina helps soulful, self-aware women and men who, despite years of inner work, still feel caught in cycles of self-doubt, emotional repression, and over-processing. Her work is for those ready to take full responsibility for their transformation, apply the practices with autonomy, and rise into embodied leadership, authentic expression, and soul-aligned impact.

Together we explore how teachings from Ramana Maharshi and nonduality start to resonate, not through the mind’s effort to “get it,” but through the body itself waking up.

This conversation dives into how presence recognises itself, why intellectual understanding comes later in the journey, and what it means when the question “Who am I?” finally lands at a deeper stage of awakening.

In this episode, you’ll discover:
-Why awakening isn’t just an intellectual process
-How the body “comes online” and shifts everything
-The role of resonance in recognising presence
-Why self-inquiry often arrives later in the path
- How practice ripens recognition beyond the mind

If you’ve ever struggled to “understand” nonduality or wondered why the path feels backward at times, this dialogue will give you fresh clarity and encouragement.

Connect with Alina Panteleev:
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Transcript

You are listening to 
Awakening Now podcast.
This is episode number 108
Awakening beyond the mind with Alina Panteleev


 
My name is Ilona Ciunaite. I am a guide, an author, and co-creator of the Liberation Unleashed community. If you are going through the process of awakening, this podcast is for you. Over the past 14 years, I’ve been guiding and supporting seekers on their journeys to discover inner peace and freedom.

In this podcast, I dive deep into the heart of awakening. Together with my guests, we explore the pivotal moments that spark transformation, what life looks like before and after the shift, and how to navigate the challenges and beauty of living an awakened life.



What if awakening isn’t about understanding concepts, but directly recognising presence through lived experience?

In this episode of Awakening Now, I sat down with Alina Panteleev, a Non-Dual Teacher and Certified Somatic Repression Coach.

Alina helps soulful, self-aware women and men who, despite years of inner work, still feel caught in cycles of self-doubt, emotional repression, and over-processing. Her work is for those ready to take full responsibility for their transformation, apply the practices with autonomy, and rise into embodied leadership, authentic expression, and soul-aligned impact.

Together we explore how teachings from Ramana Maharshi and nonduality start to resonate, not through the mind’s effort to “get it,” but through the body itself waking up.

This conversation dives into how presence recognises itself, why intellectual understanding comes later in the journey, and what it means when the question “Who am I?” finally lands at a deeper stage of awakening.

Hello Alina, it's so great to have you on the show. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you so much Ilona for having me. And I know Alina for many years. So kind of started together and this awakening journey been around with ups and downs and all different angles. And then Alina is working with people as a awakening facilitator. She's also working with women specifically. She used to be one of the Scott Kiloby facilitators, but now she's doing her own thing. She's also a birth doula. So many other things. And I'm so excited to share Lena with you today. So, welcome to the show. Thank you, Ela. Thank you for having me. It's an honor. And since the show is called Awakening, now I'm asking everyone, what is your definition of awakening? What does it mean? Yes. Well, awakening is

okay. So it's when we are able to get curious of what life is truly about and not what we just conditioned to think that life is. So when we get curious really or we got so fed up with suffering or chasing ghosts, chasing and grasping on to experiences. Awakening is just simply pausing and looking inward, turning inward. And when we're turning inward long enough and stay with it long enough, then what happens? Life consciousness shifts from the perspective of trying to survive life and think of ourselves as trying to solve life with thoughts, emotions, ideas about it and just lending actually outside of our head and into our bodies and starting to experience life through this present moment. So I feel awakening is this shift from the separate idea about ourselves into the present moment field of existence of who we are. Beautiful. Yay. Out of the head into the experience into the now. Here we are. Here we are. Right. Here we are. Yeah. It's a simple way of like Yeah. Right. being a thought into being the field. Yeah. Because we're so identified with the thinker, the doer, the manager, but once it's seen that's none of that is real. What's real? Yeah. Exactly. I was saying get curious. So what is it that brings you that curiosity? the end of your world. Suffering, you know, could be just um the actual fact that you've been looking and seeking for too long outside ourselves.

And I know you have been on a quite a journey. Wow. Oh gosh. Yeah. Would you like to share what pivotal moments? Because when when I read your journey, something that you posted on Facebook, it's like, wow, you've been around, you've done your juice, you meant people. Yeah. Could you share a little bit? Yeah. Yeah. For sure. So, I I I think I'll start where I didn't even know I was suffering. I just my coping mechanisms were very very sweet, positive, sugarcoating kind of my whole experience. But interestingly enough, kind of looking back and then of course needing to clear all that suffering later on, you know, because the body keeps the score later looking at life in in retrospect, I actually understood that there was a lot of darkness in the beginning of my life. So a lot of absence of my mom, separation, immigrations, you know, drugs, alcohol. So a whole journey of trying to find love or belonging in all the wrong places. Um, obviously due to, you know, some trauma that later on I found I had to clear out of my system. So So as a as a six-year-old, I grew up in USSR in uh Soviet Ukraine, what is now Ukraine. And um so being sent away to a sleepa away camps when I was really young in the like kind of ammonipa away camps with crazy regimes. Anyway, there was an experience that happened to me. I didn't know cuz I repressed it for so so long. And so that experience specifically kind of created a split in my system. It was a very humiliating experience. And that split in my system I didn't know for many years until you know even after a week and it started to clear everything. Mhm. So, uh that experience kind of informed a lot of my journey of seeking um as well as the experience of not having the belonging and this close relationship to my mom that meant the whole world to me and just having more of um how do you say angry, violent, negative experience growing up with that also put me in a trajectory of that seeking unconditional love that I haven't received um you So, so the journey um yeah went through exhaustion through becoming pregnant at 16, giving birth at 17, being being also addicted to heroin at 16 like all the sweet 16s were kind of very very dark period of my life. So a lot of accumulated suffering but you know the the beauty is I think what always was here and I'm extremely grateful for this kind of gracious gift that I kind of came here with is like I've never seen none of it as suffering from one end from one one perspective it's a wonderful coping mechanism and eventually kind of exhausted itself from another side it was actually a truth because all I've seen experiences is learning curves I've never seen seen them as bad happening to me. So kind of the the victim identity was never never too old. But the actual seeking was always there like seeking for love, seeking for attention, seeking for to be seen unconsciously so obviously unconsciously so. And so basically I you know been driven by desire and driven by desire of of a beautiful what do they say the American dream when I came of course the immigrations right I immigrated to Israel when I was 10 years old and then from Israel we went to Canada so it's like different to contrast to growing up in poverty so of obviously there was this desire for American dream too for That's must be it. That must be it. That's what life must be all about. And so I had it all. I had a beautiful partner, an entrepreneur, a businessman. I had the be the amazing car and the beautiful house and the parties and the traveling. All of it. All of it was all there. And um and loving very loving relationship. And yet we're here we are in two different worlds and and can only connect through recreational drugs and parties on the weekends, you know. So unfortunately it brought about like this deep deep exhaustion like literally physical exhaustion to look and to find happiness through drugs through through alcohol through sleepless nights and um yeah and my body just couldn't recover for 3 days or so. So at some point when I was almost 27 and so that's when I said like well I have to celebrate my birthday the 27th birthday in a completely different way and um I took a yoga class instead completely different way. Yeah yeah yeah cuz um yeah cuz our house was like the party house and it was beautiful. It's like beautiful friends, amazing people, but you know, unfortunately all trying to numb ourselves from the the reality of trying to struggling to survive in this world. Mhm. So um so yeah and um and there was some sort of a remembrance actually. There was just a a deep remembrance of nothing specifically but just breathing and doing pranayyama and stretching. You wouldn't think of anything but I don't know there was I was like on fire with continuing the practice. So I bought books and started meditating and ex doing asa and meditated b of meditation and uh started to really kind of closely following the the the the protocol so to say and um yeah and then just uh it was actually a spontaneous remembrance that happened in one of my meditations about two weeks into the practice and um I was chanting the gay tree mantra I don't Um it's just like intuitive stuff. I just positioned my attention in my heart and then in my third eye and then came back to the heart and boom it was just this spontaneous remembrance of being beyond body beyond mind being the absolute void this tremendous magnitude nothing you could it's like words like so failed to describe what it was this spontaneous remembrance of pure darkness just pure dark void void but it was the bmiest feeling ever um without the way to even describe it and that kind of remembrance saturated an awakening of condundalini energy which later on I found out what it was but I kind of knew it and that's why there was also so much terror was just so much terror because at that same time I was reading um I think it was uh super conscious or or or superhuman uh anyway It's a was a book by Krishna um Gopy Krishna about his experience of Kundalini awakening was a a teacher a guru well not necessarily never called himself a guru but he wrote many books in the 60s about condundalini awakening and his experience because his experience was very very um painful and very was like in so much fear about this experience or what might be happening So here I was something was crawling up my spine and I was extremely extremely terrified and there was so much terror. So so anyway I'm not going to go into details of the story but all that to say I had to meet I had to learn how to live with instead of and transmute the terror into devotion. And that was probably my first real lesson there of surrendering to the intensity of what life or awakening or anything else could be. It's amazing that you were given that book at that time. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Oh my gosh. There was so much magic if I start talking about coincidences, you know. Um, so later on looking for those for answers because I couldn't meditate anymore. There was this energy activating me and I was always afraid but but something in me just really really really wanted to meditate. It's just like it was I was just on fire. I knew there's something there like that remembrance you know already had its um you know magical influence on me and so I looked for help. nobody could kind of help you. I'll stop meditating. They told me and so on. And um anyway, so then eventually I I found it there was a Korea yoga like asham where I went and it was initiated into Korea yoga and we learned different practices, different meditations and he just told me like the teacher there said relax it's all you. So just relax and I'm like okay. I I felt like he's going to give me the specific technique how to work with the leaning energy and so on and so forth, but it was just like relax. Okay, another lesson of relaxing. So, I kind of slowly started to really learn about what it really means to um to just be with allow things as they are, right? And uh and so I slowly started to instead of being hijacked by the ego, by the fear, by the grasping, by the contracting, I slowly start to relax and relax and relax more about with this energy and actually became a devote of what I later on came to call Kali. So she was chopping all my heads off. And so I had this journey of yoga really intense practice and eventually took me to Himalayan yoga tradition of Swami and um it years probably I would say years of practice and so books were coming from different directions same book on my lap and and and so it's just was magical really really journey because because of the dedication um because of the t turning the fire within that the seeking that's maybe something that is um it's like when we're seeking for the sake of gaining gaining an experience or when we're seeking to as a longing to unite with or know reality as it is has um it has like two different ways of one is as more like oh acquiring the ego wants to acquire experiences more and this is becomes also a way of seeking And then the other I found okay I can use that same energy of desire and then I can turn it into kind of like aspiration to find the truth. So instead of it being a shadow desire into an aspiration of and longing to unite and know and be one with in my case you know my mom was absent so psychology plays out. So, so here I found another mother, now this time cosmic mother to unite with. So, um, so it, you know, it helped and and it gave the fuel and the fire to continue the journey. Um, so I don't know I maybe I'll I'll just stop here and there's of course this whole other journey that that continued the whole going through it. But um yeah, what I what I want to reflect and maybe bring people to is just there is there is a way where we can when we're seeking can hijack and just continuously bring us on this merrygoround never arriving anywhere. Yeah. Yeah. And um I don't know if you you have your experience with that. Have you seen people I have seen people I met people who are over 70 and over 80. Yeah. On this merry and I guess the longer you go on that the more difficult to step off because there's so much investment in that story. Yeah. Yeah. So what do you recommend? Let's say somebody is stuck for years now seeking seeking seeking. I want experiences this experience is not enough and there's something else and this moment is not good enough. What were you saying? Yeah, for me I find it they're wonderful probably they're seeking because they probably had an experience like I we all in the spiritual circles who probably had a knowing a satator of some kind. And then I would say wow I am so blessed and I hope people who are hearing this may they find either a guide or a practice or something where can they start integrating and what when I say when especially when it comes to being present here now people seek being present prematurely unfortunately sometimes what do you mean by that yeah so yeah So prematurely I feel it's when their body, mind, their nervous system is not ready to be present. So their their whole experience is pretty much attached to being in the head and seeking from the head. Mhm. But what actually yoga and I've been blessed to to go through the path of yoga. It's been crafted in such a way especially potentially eight steps and in retrospect that's what pretty much what happened here and it's the first step is really to master concentration. Concentration. Yes. Tell me about the concentration. Yeah. So concentration it's really the first step of being able to be with one thing for a prolonged time and because our especially with technology today and so much information and our minds are just so busy constantly jumping jumping jumping jumping they're not able to be here now and so if we take into our hands not necessarily that's why I'm saying is the the the teachers and the retreats and group energy is potent and powerful and needed and that experience right as I'm saying everyone probably had a support but you integrated I'm so blessed to be able to sit on that cushion in my case my concentration was to concentrating on the inner sound and then eventually it became concentrated on the mantra I was repeating but it's building the concentration slowly slowly what starts happening the actual ability to stay present and eventually be absorbed and eventually shift consciousness because it's like learning how to sleep. It's actually kind of a shift in consciousness to actually be present. It's like it's a different state like what you were asking me what is awakening is is to like a fourth state. Madness is not dreaming. It's not deep sleep. It's it's you know it's not the wake state. regular kind of weak state that is hijacked by thought and and and absorbed in identity but it's a different state so shifting that state and people looking for that shift and yet they don't do the homework they don't practice concentration and when people don't what I feel is so powerful and I think a lot of people that guide they guide okay you cannot just meditate maybe if you're the beginning meditator you need to pay attention to your breath it's a form of concentration It's the first step, right? To learn how to be here now and and without without distraction. So to learn how to be onepointed and being onepointed is the first steps to actually meditation, eventually absorption, eventually abiding state. So, and then I'm not saying for a lot of people it shifts differently, but for the majority of people, we will have to do some sort of a practice to be able to shift out of our monkey mind into a present moment and be okay with just being still.

I hear you. Yeah. Yeah. In in my words, it's being able to focus. The same thing, right? being able to focus and at a longer time. Yes. Which means that noise has to be significantly reduced for that clear signal of being here to be to be available cuz this is taking all the attention away. Yeah. And what are we if not attention? Yes. So attention who we are gets hijacked by all the constant absorption in identity and noise and stories and emotions and all the that stuff. So it takes that that ability to so if we look at concentration from like a different perspective. So it's like imagine being instead of distracted all the time whatever is your form of concentration or focus as you're saying if if it's a mantra or if it's a inner sound it's like a high-pitched buzzing sound kind of like the beginning of titis it's always there in quiet places and um a lot of people call it the sound of silence I used to call it the sound of silence or meditation on the sound of silence but what it does really your mask master in your mind pretty much you're saying no thank you I'm not paying attention here and what you're saying like it's okay I'm actually going to be here now I'm actually going to be here now and every time you get lost again you pull it back I'm here now get lost again pull it back I'm here now so all you're practicing is actually being present in a focused manner and then then eventually you don't need that like it just becomes you you master it to a certain degree that you don't need to even do that first so to say effort to be present right and but in the beginning it's extremely important because if we don't do that what people I found a lot of people over the years working with them is just they go and they experience a wonderful opening with a teacher or a group energy because it's just a collective field right and uh and then I think Okay, this is it. Then I can have more of that and then that's it and everything will shift. But internally, they didn't have the piece of actually preparing their vessel to be able to be present through that focus. You're talking about through the concentration I'm talking about through training their nervous system and mastering their mind not to shut up. You're mastering. You cannot you can never shut your thoughts forcefully. It's just it's going to be much more noisier. But what you can do is withdraw your attention what you are consciousness out of that noise and say no okay I'm actually going to be in the body whatever with the breath I'm just going to be in the body with the breath in the body with the breath then eventually that builds the capacity to start having those presence experiences independent from the teachers or the retreats or the satsang and all of that which is also great but it's it's that what takes people on this merrygoround because they don't rely on their own power, their own resource, their own ability to biohack their, you know, absorption in the matrix. So, this is kind of the the needed part and I'm so extremely grateful as you're asking me about my path that like truly my path kind of allowed me to sit down and master it, master it and then eventually actually Interesting tip for whoever doesn't know there's if you stay present like that focus that you're talking about in yogic terms for 7 to 8 minutes your consciousness shifts from the ego horizontal kind of experience of time into space the spaciousness and it's very actually palpitable but you have to practice to be able to be there for eight minutes without distraction. So it's a way to shift and so the more it started happening the more there was just absorption meditation again and again and again and then things like Ramana Maharishi who was a huge influence actually the the grace that probably shifted everything for me um started to make sense like his teachings I didn't understand what is ghana yoga don't understand non-duality is Yes, I don't understand. So and and I was trying to understand it from my mind like how can you wake up by understanding something or not understanding something but then it's just the body came online because of all all this practice and then the body when the body came online then the resonance was waking itself up okay through whatever a couple of lines you know you read and it's just already is recognized the the presence in you that is being already experienced and exercised starts to recognize it and recognize it. And so then it's it's a whole other like I would say even non-duality or the who am I, what am I came such a late last stage on my path which was 3 years after the initial um seeing you know

that's so interesting that you're sharing this. Can we talk a little bit about what you are doing now? I see you helping women.

You're having these circles offering some of course. Yes. Yes. Can you tell a little bit about this? Yes. So I'll give a little bit of a bridge how even what I'm doing came about. So after the shift um in permanent abiding uh state which happened well years ago probably I don't know 2010 then 2011 kind of established so wow 15 years ago okay so what I've noticed that this view even though established was so freeing but not enough so the actual going into the body and clearing in the body that was so repressed and still in that fear and still with that absence of mom, you know, or in internally, right? And and in that sleepaway camp that at 6 years old, that trauma was still there. So here I was with this huge revelation and my body was so repressed and my voice was so shut down and so silenced and so muted that I couldn't share anything for quite a while actually. And so so what I found I went all into years of unrepressing myself in sematic work and uh the sematic sematically diving into repressed emotions and all the shame I was carrying still unconsciously in my system and there was a lot of repressed anger there was a lot of even even within the anger there was a lot of hurt of being not seen being not loved being not wanted that's my interpretation of my child energy right it's Not necessarily that, you know, I was not loved, but it's it's interesting how it plays out, right? So, we don't need big traumas to be traumatized. It's just a reality that the world is is intense and the child is so tender and so open and so vulnerable and so we pick up things and we pick up things along the way and uh even just a look from a parent that is in a certain with a certain energy can crack our whole system and and we can I start identifying with there's something wrong with us. So, so I went into that realm, the human realm, the embodiment realm, the the the integration on the human level realm. And it was very very profoundly helpful, intense, beautiful, um needed, absolutely needed. And so emerging on the other side, as you were mentioning before, I was working for Scott, mentoring, teaching groups for many years, was facilitating um actually for about five years I was there. in the last year kind of emerged on my own and embraced my yogi side as well and my my yogi philosophies and and so on and so created um this um program right now for women that is called woman unbound and uh it's um it's to bring women on a journey from repression into soulful expression and eventually leadership and even financial freedom. It's like an arc. It's a spiral of activation. It's almost like five programs within one program that is lifetime entry, lifetime membership. Um because it takes a commitment. Why lifetime? because because we have so much resistance because we feel we were so identified with our stories with our repressed emotions and and so it it takes a momentum a container and um of course a willingness and a readiness and being on on that edge and I actually work with women that done a lot of things and that's why I talk about a lot about integration and so they saw all these windows and they probably acquired like I did like this revelation of some kind to bring into the world of form and yet their bodies are repressed. So here they are you know with this um aspiration for a different reality for themselves and others and uh and here they are gifted this gift and yet their bodies are screaming still in fear not willing to kind of come along. And so I have so many women like my gosh I have this amazing healing ability I want to share but I cannot like like I can't do this like I I tried and I paid coaches so much money and I threw away so much money there trying to do it and I can't and all of that because I've been through all this journey. I myself paid coaches prematurely before I was able to you know unhook from all the repressed energies within myself. sematically. So I know what it means to go and try to build a business or try to share your gift with the world without clearing yourself up or also without you know having a solid practice of connection to source of connection to the field of being and knowing yourself as the field. Because if you're just a tiny human being, receive the revelation, such a big revelation to hold and to actually share with others without being plugged in to existence itself, it's just never going to work. The world is crazy. The like in the sense of like it's so loud. There's so much out there. So it's you can only do it I feel when you're backed truly. I mean you can burn out. you can become an entrepreneur and and continue on the trade treadmill of um how would I say trying to prove yourself and success based on deficient identity because success and fail like disconnection from life both if we're not careful enough to look underneath it's just uh deficient identity and repressed emotion. So they're both run on the that same fuel unconscious fuel. So, so it's like either you're burn out or either you stay hidden. So this way when you actually goatically to clear yourself up and connect to source realize yourself as the existence itself as life itself then magic happens then you know moving into the world of form is just wow it's a celebration and I'm not saying there's no challenges with technology and so many other things that we need to learn about uh but at the same time it's just a whole different game. Doing what you love, doing what you're meant to do, and no longer having a body that's contracted and trapped in time and identity. And um yeah, so this is um this is me and this is the program I'm offering for women. There's also uh just free meetings for community that I offer for men. It's men and women. Um perhaps um one of the me people I trained steps in soon and uh maybe we'll open up a program for men as well led by men. Um and um yeah, I'm I'm really excited. The whole platform is called Soulfire Unbound. So just really unlocking your soul fire. So c can you talk a little bit about what's possible you know because we hear a lot about the negative how it was but can you share a little bit how it can be since you you work with women and you see the transformation and you live with them that transformation. Can you share a little bit of Yeah. the magic that can be? Yeah. Beautiful. And you know, I'm I'm myself discovering the magic right now. Like I'm exactly at that point. And uh it's it's it's actually fascinating when and it it it's takes continuous shedding. And that's why the container is kind of a continuous container that I'm offering women because you see like even just stepping into the world of form there's um there's all these marketing ways of like egoic marketing ways. So I'm just learning oh this doesn't fit me and this doesn't fit me because I'm like I paid like some business mentors and it's amazing uh they're amazing. They have amazing value and yet when you go into the world of form through real like support by ex by existence itself it's like a whole different game it's very very different and so what I found is it's actually a form of resonance so when women come into clearing themselves like really deconstructing all the old identities and the fear the frozen fear and the repression and so what I find their actual natural talents if they start paying attention to it, they they they become resonant. It's just like they vibrate with a certain frequency. And I didn't, you know, I'm not into like the woo woo or the fluffy spiritual worlds words, but frequency is so real. It's not the fabric. Exactly. It's the fabric of existence, right? It's like this is it. And and so what I found when women especially when women come together and this is something new I'm learning because yes I knew ourselves as a field of existence itself. Yes, we are all one on that level. But now I'm discovering that we as women, we're coming together and you know we've been burned by by by generations you know for our ability to be this fabric of this magical fabric of creation. It's just we have that powerful energy. So when we come together, it's very quick that women get, you know, liberated, especially in the frequency of other women. So I have these women's circles and I'm just learning and it's just fascinating to see yourself in every single one, not just as the field of existence, but it's actually each energy manifesting differently. And yet you're all them. And so we are all going through this shedding of the old and really coming into this beautiful blossoming and through that resonance as I'm saying we no longer need to do like egoic marketing. We just can be ourselves and just really radiate you know that whatever you love to do. Some love to express with voice. Some love I love writing. I lately started just writing on Facebook and I just have so much so many comments and so much interest and so on. And it's always like, "Oh, okay. Want to experience more magic? Come to my free Thursday meetings. Wonderful." And it's just just flows. And women shows show up and they're say like, "Oh my gosh, you're the one I was looking for. It's it's that magical, you know? It's just uh so so what is possible really it's kind of like this effortless way of being you unapologetically and then everything else just divinely orchestrates itself into whatever it is that your mission here on earth at this time is. And it doesn't have to be big. It could be in your family. It could be with your kids. It could be with your partner. It's like it it is going to show up differently. In my case, I always felt like I want to be a teacher. Something was in me like okay, I want to be a teacher. I want to be a teacher and I love teaching. So um so yeah anyway and I was running away from that too. I was running away for a long long time and uh but then when I said yes the magic started to happen where there was even a little bit of struggle in the beginning struggle struggle struggle how to do it I don't know how to do it and then you as I'm saying take some ideas of different other mentors and it just doesn't fit then it's just like when you surrender it's like that surrender remember in the beginning of my journey it's like oh okay that surrender okay I know that it's so You're just like take it to the edge and you just let go and surrender and then you're just held. You're honestly held and everything everyone's showing up and people are showing up. Opportunity showing up. Um and um I I just started my program. I I'm already filling the second cohort which is sex six women. And I already filled the first one. There's already half full the second one. And I was just like I was like what? And everyone is extremely grateful to be there. And the alignment of these women is just like there they are. There they are. It's like me few steps before standing on that edge having that revelation and their bodies still screaming from fear of really showing up. And so having the right tools, the right container of we're all going to just become the nuclear nucleus of our own fractals, whatever they here to share with the world. And so super excited to support women into their blossoming. So maybe whoever is listening now can still join [Music] the fifth circle or something. Yes. Yes. Yes. for sure. We have four places still in this particular one um uh one small circle which is directly with me because I I trained so many beautiful women previously and so uh in the third group is actually going to be uh the smaller group would going to be with my training assistant and the bigger group I'm still going to be there I still they'll still people will women will have access to me but I'll be leading the bigger group at that point while the smaller group over 10 weeks will be going with a certified and and uh qualified and very trusted um assistant of mine. Oh, that's so wonderful to hear. I mean, look at this. What's possible? Yeah. Who knew, right? Years ago, I'm like, [ __ ] I was so repressed. Oh gosh. Well, you mentioned word alignment. Aligning. Let's talk a little bit about that. I would love to hear your Yeah, I think in this nonuality awakening that there is no self. It's so easy to forget

the reality. It kind of can become another concept. But it just means that everything is happening by itself. So everything is still here. The dreams, the heart's desires, the longing, the joy, the happiness, everything's still here. So for me, alignment is like tuning into what I want to experience. Tuning into what kind of how I like to feel, what's blissful, saying yes to that, letting it go. aligning to that and then watching how it all unfolds to me that that's alignment like recognizing consciously where I want to be what I want to feel what do I want to experience and then many things start happening in a mysterious way people come in situations come in it's just like something from beyond saying, "Oh, come this way. You're aligned, you know."

Oh gosh. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. To all of that. Um yeah, I could totally resonate with where you're saying alignment because that that's exactly like it's almost the other side of the perspective of what I was calling resonance. So it's like when you resonate with just you and you clear out everything that is in the way of being you. What that means if you need to relocate and like I I remember I was trying to kind of just really position myself and and and uh trying to find my happiness in Canada but I couldn't like and there was of course there was I was okay. I was fine. And yet there was something in me that knew that that's not it. Mhm. Right. And um and so I relocated my whole family and we moved to Mexico and it was completely different alignment and completely different hell yes to myself. Hell yes to this dream, this desire, this this bigger picture. It's like what you're talking to when you're saying alignment. For me, it's almost like remembering your future. And I know you know it's a concept natively the future and so on but you're remembering a certain reality that is so true to you. And so for me it's like this attunement to this sense of knowing what it what it is where where where you are or what like the bigger vast manifestation of you like excited to experience. Right. Yeah. It's it's uh it's so fascinating when we are saying yes to that and sometimes it look to the to the mind it will be like wow we're challenging a whole like we need the whole world to fall apart to put it back itself together again. Uh but you know sometimes it's that um sometimes we have to say um we have to let something die for true resonance kind of in an alignment to show up and then it's just so clear right when when it's a true yes then everything as you're saying comes comes and shows up and then this is just that that becomes that beautiful effortless magic of play the leela of life you know the the play of god

yeah I think before the journey before it even starts we are run by the past that's happened that happened all the interpretations of the past that needs that's how the future will be and that needs to clear so when we awaken

seeing that this is not you this is not what I am it's just some old stories running in the head. It's got nothing to do with reality. Then these stories they need to clear and then there is more space to be present and then I see that there is space to dream again

and from that dream from that direction because it's just a direction where I want to go. It's like um having um a pull to the best future which was not possible when we lived in the past or from the fear of that past happening again in the future. So the mind is always was thinking what if the bad things happen. What if what if but that what if doesn't need to be bad. It can be what if interesting and amazing. What if amazing things happen, right?

Yeah. So true. So true. What you're saying and uh I actually right now releasing a mini course on self- sabotage. Exactly. That exactly addressing that because it's these old energies that are constantly if we don't see them consciously if we don't dive in to feel into that frozen fear whatever it is that is you know in the way of actually our dream life and uh and it's pretty much that again being as you're saying being trapped in time being trapped in in in the past. So when we're trapped in the past, we cannot dream the future the way we want it. But actually there is we have that power to dream dream whatever it is we want. And it's just so unlimited. It's so beautiful actually whatever is unfolding for me right now. It's just because and the more it's unfolds the more gratitude you kind of radiated that that resonance that radiance that I'm saying the more gratitude you have the more it's given. It's just like it's just expanding horizons. So I'm my next expansion I'm actually moving to Spain. Oh sweet always wanted to be there but always was like ah not for me. Oh another immigration. Oh, no. It's like I have this trauma almost of immigration because I did so many and um and but it's just so beautifully aligning and everything is just showing up in perfect timing and and it's almost like instead of moving as an immigrant as I did so many times now I'm like moving there's like almost like a red carpet is unfolding in front of me. Wonderful. So lucky. Yeah. That feeling that feeling. Cool. Yeah. Right. So um that's beautiful. Yeah, thank you. Thank you so much for bringing that because it's always Yeah, we put we'll pay a lot of attention to the dark dark dark, you know, like the pain pain pain. But um but it's the anticipation of feeling the pain is more painful than actually going and sitting with those stories and old emotions to liberate them honestly. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. It's the fear of healing. But if it's safe to feel, don't need to be afraid to feel. And the fear loses its job, isn't it? It's like fire it, go sit on a bench. Yeah. Yeah. Beautifully said. And that's why I'm saying that the the also the the intention of like bringing these three pillars in my work is Yes. The sematic alchemy, manifesting your legacy is another pillar. and uh embodied wholeness, which is embodied enlightenment. Cuz we can only dive and feel deep fears or emotions when we are plugged and know ourselves as nothing will ever actually touch us or hurt us or wound us as as existence itself, you know, as we're not the story. So from we are not the story, we're the space itself. Then we can dive and be the story um and be the space within the story and uh you know and liberate it so that manifesting your legacy becomes just a joyful play of dreaming our um dream life. Wonderful. I I I wanted to ask you what's your next expansion dream exploration? Where are you going next? Oh yeah, I have plans.

Mhm. I think that's I'm in a process of creating courses for awakening for deep looking. So just getting getting it more accessible for people who are on the journey and need a lot of focus because there's so much going on like what to look who to listen and who's going to point here if not me. That's my job to just keep pointing develop an own experience. So I want I'm creating this platform. So it's just the beginning. I'm not the beginning but I knew I it's coming and everything aligned. So I'm really happy with how it's going. So, so my my idea is to just give more support and more help for people who are on this journey because we all need that. And yes, it's it's being in that field in that resonant field with somebody who's been there before. That's support and help. Yeah. And then and then it can be passed on. The ripples keep going. So my idea is to just make more splashes, more ripples. See what happens.

Beautiful. and and so needed, you know, when I didn't have the tools like the deep looking and other things that you're offering. When I didn't have that, I actually was more kind of stuck and not I I've seen like because conscious awareness kind of sees things but they have to be triggered to be seen like it doesn't dive necessarily because when with deep looking you know we ask specific questions so you immediately bring the unconscious making make the unconscious conscious. So this is so amazing that you're doing that because I was probably for 5 years hanging around not knowing how to move forward although there was lots of inner peace and yet there was this urge to share this with the world and yet there was all this repression and and the trauma that was not allowing me to do that. So it's it's fascinating until I found the tools of uh Kilabby Scott Kilby. But um it's it's so wonderful and so needed to shortcut our need for suffering and just to use specific tools and techniques so that we can all live a little bit more u with that you know playfulness. Yes. To uncover the hidden original software. Yes. But all these applications have been installed over time. You know, you want it or not, but now it's got to be uninstalled to return to the original software and get the updates from the source. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. True. True. So, we've been subscribing all the stuff that is not ours. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit of deprogramming and rebooting, recalibration of the system. Yeah. And that can also be fun and joyful and like um treasure hunt. Doesn't have to be horrible. Yeah. Even though the cleaning up is not is not pleasant. It doesn't have to be horrible and know that it's happening and it has to be happening and yay to that. Yes. Just changing the whole attitude to what we perceived that it was bad. Yes. like like you were lucky you didn't see that as suffering but for many people it's not the case. Yeah. Yes, that's true. So that needs to be realigned because we do make mistakes and that's growth. We do have to feel uncomfortable because through that we got get into um sweet freedom and if we run away from that or we try to deny it we never going to get through. So for sure and you know I have worked with some people and myself including when we actually get to real emotions and real stories that we carry around so that we can release it. You know I had so many moments where grief actually feels pleasurable or like a lots of anger and release of that anger is oh actually feels blissful. So sometimes we're and even just fear feeling fear fully like fully and without turning away from it becomes just this beautiful source of immediate presence. So it's it's it's so beautiful. We're just like running away. We don't know what as I'm saying the anticipation of feeling the fear of feeling is actually what hijacks our ability to move. Well, of course, finding the right tools and thank God there's more and more and more of that more of integration, real integration, not avoiding or bypassing the human experience. And and I feel the more we can align with specific tool or technique and just really learn how to catch our resistance to feeling and just be mindful of that. There's tools and techniques in in KI and Kiloby inquiries. There's tools how to deal and catch that resistance so that it no longer hijacks uh the ability to sit or to inquire or to liberate whatever is in the way of us moving and becoming fully ourselves unapologetically. So, yay. Thank you.

That's so sweet to to be with you. Yeah. Thank you. been a wonderful discovery journey. Yeah. So beautiful to what to see you unfolding, blossoming and creating in the in the in the we're both I think in the place of create creation. Yes, we are. Okay. Do you have any final words or like whatever is fresh from the field wants to come true? Let's see.

Yeah, I lately love to close with um the the word curiosity. For me, it's a it's an important kind of word. And so I I would like to invite instead of avoiding your reality, because we're all avoiders. I've been there. I've been I was a master avoider. So instead of avoiding, if you really want to break free, if you really want to tap into your dream life, into your inner freedom, and so instead of avoiding yourself and your reality or whatever you're running away from, probably pain, inner pain, like stop. Use it like as soon as you feel triggered, like use it as an invitation, as actually grace that is here to call your attention to wake up. So if we can start turning running away into curiosity to just pause for a second and just like okay what am I truly feeling like what am I truly running away from like this next distraction or the scrolling or whatever it is that you're doing you know just stop all just okay what am I running away from feeling like or even reverse inquiry that's kill one of the He'll be amazing tools. Just ask yourself, okay, I'm not afraid of feeling this or if I don't scroll, if I don't scroll, if I don't consume, what would I have to feel? So, it's just like simple things and then that already creates for you a portal. Okay? Like, wow. Okay. More awareness, more consciousness of what is it you're running away from. So when we get curious about that inner reality that we're running away from, it's fascinating the doors that it can open up. So probably I'll live or I want to um you know invite people to get curious. I really got curious the beauty of getting out of the matrix to the other side and then coming back in with with this beautiful playful openness and complete upgrade of reality is just such a different game. And uh so get curious what is what is it that keeps you stuck? What is it that keeps sabotaging you know your way of being fulfilled, being more intimate, being more present? So this is kind of important questions to and ask and it all starts with pausing and pure curiosity. Okay, well said thank you so much.

And how can people find you? They want to work with you. What where should they go? Okay, thank you. Thank you so much for asking. Um, yeah, I right now I have um people professionally working on my new website uh well specifically designed for the program. It will be womanbound.com and it's singular woman unbound.com. Uh so that would be probably the best way or as Alina Pantilev uh on Facebook that's where I'm most active uh in these days and I share a lot actually there's going to be a Thursday meeting this coming Thursday and it's all going to be about shame and uh my Thursday meetings are one hour it's sematic inquiry I lead a group facilitation going diving through this skillful approach to processing um into shame this week particularly and then the second hour sorry yeah yeah yeah yeah it's uh it's at the it's noon 10 the like 12 10 p.m. Eastern. Eastern. Okay. Eastern. Uhhuh. Mhm. Yeah. And so, and then the second part is more of a meditation transmission diving into the presence, the field that we all are. So, there's the there's always the human part and there's always the the non-dual part both. You know, you are unique. Mhm. I talked to so many people through this podcast lying and yeah, you have some very unique qualities and I'm so sure you can help many many people, many women and men doesn't matter, but you have that something in you that

be on boards. Let's leave it at that. Yeah. Yeah. I just felt it just with you like that one. Do you have that? So somebody's looking for here you go.

So beautiful. Thank you so much Ilona. This is such a pleasure. Always our connections even though we can not see each other for a long time. You know, every time we see each other is like such a beautiful mirroring. So, thank you so much for everything you're doing and and this opportunity to be on your channel and to speak to your audience and and uh and I, you know, I I'd love to continue exploring, you know, what it is that you're doing, bringing it also to um my developing audience.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's wonderful. So, let's create more splashes and more ripples. Yes. Big big blocks pure. I'm all up for it. Yes. Okay, Alina, thank you so much and thank you everyone for watching and for listening and please contact Alina for the Bye for now. Thank you. by him.